Curse

Nerel · Oct 25, 2008, 03:05 AM // 03:05

"Kurzick and Luxon titles is almost impossible to achieve"

Right, and so is amassing the sheer volume of ectos need to buy a mini Panda... does that mean we can run Bots scamming fools out of their ectos in LA and at worst suffer a two week suspension? I guess so because so many players have achieved the 'near impossible' task of maxing the Kurzick and/or Luxon titles... far fewer have amassed the wealth needed for an extremely prestigious mini pet.

Many of the GW titles are silly, grindy to the extreme and rather pointless... we've known this for ages. The solution would be to fix the titles, or better yet, put a bit more thought into them BEFORE they were introduced (Hint: Really think about the impact of titles in GW2)... or you could just condone botting 'because they're too hard'.

I wonder what else is 'too hard' and thus justifies the use of bots...

Disgusted.

Edit: I'm thinking that a certain 117 former (and some still current) Guild Wars players found Mallyx to be 'Too hard' as well, they might like an apology and their accounts back? I mean, if botting is now acceptable...

Arenanet once did something amazing, they released a very cool, competitive yet social (MMO-like) game, and without the monthly fees. Amazingly good graphics for an MMO (-like game) at the time of release... seems lately they can do no right.

Disgusted and dumbfounded.

Lycan Nibbler · Oct 25, 2008, 03:10 AM // 03:10

This is total BS! So yet again the people who made the effort to do the titles the proper way are given the finger by anet.

Listen Anet, a bot is a bot, just because someone thinks its too hard doesnt allow them to decide the rules dont apply to them.

Ive just decided getting the RA title is unrealistic - according to your rules this is now fair for me to run a bot there then....

Killed u man · Oct 25, 2008, 03:11 AM // 03:11

Well, Both titles arn't "hard too achieve". Hard to achieve in the sence of casual gamer being able to get it with alot of effort/skill.

It IS impossible for a casual gamer to max these titles, as it requires no-lifeing.
It's not a question of "hard", it's a question of reasonable grind, and unreasonable grind.

There is no skill whatsoever involved, as shown a bot could do it. What DOES this title currently represent:

This person can bot

or

This person wasted 1000+ hours sitting at his computers, doing a repetitive 1m 20s cycle, for the past 2 months, in this so called "game" (Which is supposed to be fun, remember) called G -rind- uild Wars.

Lycan Nibbler · Oct 25, 2008, 03:12 AM // 03:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Regina Buenaobra

As you know, using bots is against the User Agreement, and the penalty is account termination.

there is NO grey area to this... ban them and keep the bans.

Antheus · Oct 25, 2008, 03:13 AM // 03:13

My opinion has always been that these titles are just plain absurd and unattainable to anyone wishing to retain a shred of sanity.

6 month ban would be probably be worth it.

But again, long long time ago people have commented on potential issues with titles. Wouldn't it be just better to reduce the numbers? Anywhere between 10 and 100 would be reasonable. Some other titles could benefit from that.

Quote:

Translation: The game is too hard.

Solution: We're going to make it easier.

Nah, this one is completely and entirely in the "No life" category. So are many other titles.

Issac · Oct 25, 2008, 03:16 AM // 03:16

Botting always looked like so much fun. They should bump down the max for the alliance titles, but then the ppl that all ready maxed them are ganna complain :S.

Nerel · Oct 25, 2008, 03:23 AM // 03:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antheus

Nah, this one is completely and entirely in the "No life" category. So are many other titles.

A no-lifer could max these titles in a couple of months, a bot in far less time... a hardcore player (bordering on the obsessive no-lifer stereotype) could max both in six months... now how long have these titles been available in the game? and why do you have to have them maxed even if you're not willing to put in the effort?

The titles are too long and grindy for the casual player, absolutely... so the casual player can choose NOT to max them, or even pursue them at all... or they could bot them, I guess. Hopefully Anet will really consider the impact of titles in GW2, both the effects of titles ingame (when linked to skills or other 'tangible' benefits) as well as the time and effort required to obtain them.

Winterclaw · Oct 25, 2008, 03:28 AM // 03:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by holymasemuse

Translation: This part of the game has been broken since release and we just now realised it and are getting around to fixing it.

Fixed it for you.

I don't really care one way or the other about the bans. It's Anet's game and they can let in and keep out whoever they feel like.

eveler890 · Oct 25, 2008, 03:35 AM // 03:35

All I have to say to this is that I recently maxed my Kurzick title from off and on hffing over the last year. It's possible to get this title, people are just lazy and want the benefit w/o the work...

DarkNecrid · Oct 25, 2008, 03:36 AM // 03:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by holymasamune

Translation: The game is too hard.

Solution: We're going to make it easier.

Typical Anet.

Nah it's more like

Translation: We were on crack and the grind for these 2 titles is so hard and goes against the original design of our game.

Solution: We're going to make the grind go away like we promised we would a long time ago.

Lycan Nibbler · Oct 25, 2008, 03:45 AM // 03:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkNecrid

Nah it's more like

Translation: We were on crack and the grind for these 2 titles is so hard and goes against the original design of our game.

Solution: We're going to make the grind go away like we promised we would a long time ago.

No, HA title is hard, RA title is hard (part of the original design I believe)etc. Doing AB (which is in the same pvp category) cannot be considered a grind any more than these other areas and the factions title is easier to obtain than the others in this category.

dr love · Oct 25, 2008, 04:04 AM // 04:04

from some1 else, "2 week ban? That doesn't exactly send a strong message about enforcing the rules. It's not like botting is the same as the swear filter that we have the option of turning on and off."

sure it does, cause its halloween!!

maraxusofk · Oct 25, 2008, 04:15 AM // 04:15

seems like most ppl are missing the point that gaile gray said the g15 macro function was ok so ppl were using it and got banned for it. now anet is rectifing it by issuing an official statement and letting the people who were misinformed by gaile to get their accounts back.

i love when ppl dont read

False Healer · Oct 25, 2008, 04:24 AM // 04:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Puddin Cheeks

This is a joke right, I got a two week ban for use the f word, and they botted and get the same sentence, sigh.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racthoh

2 week ban? That doesn't exactly send a strong message about enforcing the rules. It's not like botting is the same as the swear filter that we have the option of turning on and off.

Quote:

Originally Posted by fenix

This is just another example of ANet setting a double standard. It's okay to bot, but it's not okay to say words that are on the language filter.

It is not okay to say filtered words in game ever...

(j) In the Game(s), characters have the privilege of sending server wide messages called "Chat Messages." With this privilege comes a high level of responsibility on the part of the user. Due to the fact that this communication channel has the ability to impact every player on the server, NC Interactive will not tolerate any inappropriate behavior of any sort in this chat channel. This includes but is not limited to: inappropriate language of any sort or any attempt to escape the profanity filter, inappropriate or vulgar content of any sort, repeated "spamming," or "flooding" of the chat messages channel, or any other conduct determined to be inappropriate by NC Interactive Support, in its sole discretion. Any violation of this term or rules of conduct may, in the sole discretion of NC Interactive, lead to the temporary removal of the character's ability to communicate, the account being suspended for a set period of time, or lead to permanent account closure.

realtalk916 · Oct 25, 2008, 04:56 AM // 04:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Puddin Cheeks

This is a joke right, I got a two week ban for use the f word, and they botted and get the same sentence, sigh.

EDIT: and the only way i get to experience the halloween event is reading about it on guru.

thats funny cause i only got a 3 day ban for the f word

Inde · Oct 25, 2008, 04:58 AM // 04:58

Let's try to stay on topic, or at least discuss the original purpose of the thread in our posts as well please.

Shayne Hawke · Oct 25, 2008, 05:02 AM // 05:02

Nooooooo-oh. Nooooooooooooo-ho-ho, no.

ANet, you can't say "We do not condone the use of bots" in one line and renege with "two-week suspension" in the next.

If there was any question in drawing the line between what were bots and what was not, then you should have recognized that question and defined that for everyone beforehand. In addition, you're begging for rules to be broken if this action resulting in "account termination" can be shortened to a simple two-weeks vacation.

Stop making exceptions. Stop making excuses.

DarkGanni · Oct 25, 2008, 05:09 AM // 05:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Killed u man

Well, Both titles arn't "hard too achieve". Hard to achieve in the sence of casual gamer being able to get it with alot of effort/skill.

It IS impossible for a casual gamer to max these titles, as it requires no-lifeing.
It's not a question of "hard", it's a question of reasonable grind, and unreasonable grind.

There is no skill whatsoever involved, as shown a bot could do it. What DOES this title currently represent:

This person can bot

or

This person wasted 1000+ hours sitting at his computers, doing a repetitive 1m 20s cycle, for the past 2 months, in this so called "game" (Which is supposed to be fun, remember) called G -rind- uild Wars.

We got a winner here^

Personally I would like these titles, however I enjoy playing different aspects of the game instead of passing time doing the same thing. I don't recall any HFFF bots before the event, It's not surprising that ppl use bots for this title aswell.

The next big game update better be thought well before released. I guess we'll find out soon.

Uuhhhhh that's it I think xD

SpiritThief · Oct 25, 2008, 05:10 AM // 05:10

You know if they just double the faction earned in AB, the problem would be solved. No need for a rebalance. Even now I think its fine.

RA needs a rebalance, I mean 5 wins a row? How many people now can stay logged in for 5 matches in a row?

FlamingMetroid · Oct 25, 2008, 05:12 AM // 05:12

Anet supports botting, heard it here first